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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:50 am 
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Anyone know the possible affect, if any, of the proposed ethanol increase in fuel on the tuber engines? I know if it is introduced I still have the option of buying super unleaded 98 but would like to have a choice

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 Post subject: Re: E10
PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 11:55 am 
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Anyone know the possible affect, if any, of the proposed ethanol increase in fuel on the tuber engines? I know if it is introduced I still have the option of buying super unleaded 98 but would like to have a choice


I'm not sure regarding Tuber engines as I was looking at ethanol in general when I had my Triumph because of the tank being composite.
My understanding is that all Rubber & composites are at risk with higher methanol, inlet manifolds, throttle body seals, all seals that come into contact with it, tank sealing, pipes etc.
I also believe that super 98 is not effected as it remains at 5%. It should also say on the petrol pump body somewhere what amount of ethanol is in the petrol.
If I find the links I read I'll post them for you.
Here's a couple just to highlight fuel lines.

www.hemmings.com/blog/2014/12/05/tech-1 ... d-not-use/
www.moss-europe.co.uk/ethanol-proof-fue ... gates.html

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 Post subject: Re: E10
PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 12:18 pm 
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Whenever I hear of ethanol in petrol I always remember how attractive it makes S1 petrol tanks ;)

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Just stick with 'Super', it works out cheaper anyway #nobrainer

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Just stick with 'Super', it works out cheaper anyway #nobrainer


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But Super will also have ethanol in unless you are very lucky!


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:12 pm 
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How is it cheaper? I use super but see no real difference in mpg...confused :?

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 Post subject: Re: E10
PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:57 pm 
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How is it cheaper? I use super but see no real difference in mpg...confused :?

t965m wrote:
Whenever I hear of ethanol in petrol I always remember how attractive it makes S1 petrol tanks ;)

super less ethanol = fuel tank ok
non super, more ethanol = interesting affect on fuel tank :shock:

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An increase in ethanol content means a higher AFV to compensate or a bigger main jet needed on the carbed bikes. Another reason not to disable closed loop on your ECM...

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:53 pm 
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How is it cheaper? I use super but see no real difference in mpg...confused :?

Last time I did the sums, 8% dearer, 10% better economy = no brainer. That's before you consider the health benefits to your fuel system and engine if you're diligent in buying only pukka (ie Shell/ Esso/ BP/ Texaco) rather than supermarket bottom-of-the-tank shite. We in the motor trade are not reliant on just our own personal experience, we deal with the fall out from poor fuel and the consequential damage to CATS and oxygen sensors. And I have had hundreds of customers thank me for introducing them to pukka super.
But I guess it pains your sporran to brim your tank with the good stuff too often, eh Clive? ;)

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:16 am 
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I've never run mine on low grade so don't know if I get more mileage, but it definitely runs ok & I'm well happy with the mileage I get, usually over 250 on a five gallon frame without the petrol light coming on. On that basis 50+ per gallon I guess?

It's going up to 15% ethanol pretty soon as well & there are plans for further increases. That will make everything run shit, cause major motor problems & hence the introduction of electric cars with their shit range will seem better than breaking down.
Not bad for a simple soul. :yup:

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 6:19 pm 
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Whilst I get all the good stuff to the engine, I defo don’t see any more mpg. I generally do put the good stuff in and yes, it does hurt the pocket :o It can be up to 15p a litre more expensive :shock: There’s nowt tighter than an Englishman living in Scotland :yup:

Yes, I know it’s cheaper in the long run...etc...etc :D :rotfl:

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 Post subject: Re: E10
PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 6:22 pm 
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Also...will they never put the bad stuff in Super?

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 Post subject: Re: E10
PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 6:35 pm 
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t965m wrote:
Also...will they never put the bad stuff in Super?


Not sure they'd be able to call it super if they did?

The Esso garage just down the road from me has the stickers on the pumps (I checked today) & it's all 5% ethanol at the moment. It's also very good super at Esso garages, Bp is great as well.

The garage owners didn't have a clue? Seemingly they just sell it.

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