Anyone know the possible affect, if any, of the proposed ethanol increase in fuel on the tuber engines? I know if it is introduced I still have the option of buying super unleaded 98 but would like to have a choice

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2017 KTM 690 Duke
2001 M2
2019 Street Triple RS
2004 Monster S4R
Wilier La Triestina

I'm not sure regarding Tuber engines as I was looking at ethanol in general when I had my Triumph because of the tank being composite.
My understanding is that all Rubber & composites are at risk with higher methanol, inlet manifolds, throttle body seals, all seals that come into contact with it, tank sealing, pipes etc.
I also believe that super 98 is not effected as it remains at 5%. It should also say on the petrol pump body somewhere what amount of ethanol is in the petrol.
If I find the links I read I'll post them for you.
Here's a couple just to highlight fuel lines.

www.hemmings.com/blog/2014/12/05/tech-1 ... d-not-use/
www.moss-europe.co.uk/ethanol-proof-fue ... gates.html

All the best Paul.

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Whenever I hear of ethanol in petrol I always remember how attractive it makes S1 petrol tanks

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2001 X1
KTM390 Duke
Ducati 950 Monster +
CCM Spitfire Scrambler

Just stick with 'Super', it works out cheaper anyway #nobrainer

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'98 M2 Razorback, it's a keeper.

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But Super will also have ethanol in unless you are very lucky!

How is it cheaper? I use super but see no real difference in mpg...confused

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In the garage -

2001 X1
KTM390 Duke
Ducati 950 Monster +
CCM Spitfire Scrambler

super less ethanol = fuel tank ok
non super, more ethanol = interesting affect on fuel tank

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Buell Ulysses XB12X 06/08

An increase in ethanol content means a higher AFV to compensate or a bigger main jet needed on the carbed bikes. Another reason not to disable closed loop on your ECM...

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08 Specialized Langster

Last time I did the sums, 8% dearer, 10% better economy = no brainer. That's before you consider the health benefits to your fuel system and engine if you're diligent in buying only pukka (ie Shell/ Esso/ BP/ Texaco) rather than supermarket bottom-of-the-tank shite. We in the motor trade are not reliant on just our own personal experience, we deal with the fall out from poor fuel and the consequential damage to CATS and oxygen sensors. And I have had hundreds of customers thank me for introducing them to pukka super.
But I guess it pains your sporran to brim your tank with the good stuff too often, eh Clive?

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'98 M2 Razorback, it's a keeper.

Nasty sh*t so it is

I've never run mine on low grade so don't know if I get more mileage, but it definitely runs ok & I'm well happy with the mileage I get, usually over 250 on a five gallon frame without the petrol light coming on. On that basis 50+ per gallon I guess?

It's going up to 15% ethanol pretty soon as well & there are plans for further increases. That will make everything run shit, cause major motor problems & hence the introduction of electric cars with their shit range will seem better than breaking down.
Not bad for a simple soul.

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Whilst I get all the good stuff to the engine, I defo don’t see any more mpg. I generally do put the good stuff in and yes, it does hurt the pocket It can be up to 15p a litre more expensive There’s nowt tighter than an Englishman living in Scotland

Yes, I know it’s cheaper in the long run...etc...etc

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In the garage -

2001 X1
KTM390 Duke
Ducati 950 Monster +
CCM Spitfire Scrambler

Also...will they never put the bad stuff in Super?

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In the garage -

2001 X1
KTM390 Duke
Ducati 950 Monster +
CCM Spitfire Scrambler

Not sure they'd be able to call it super if they did?

The Esso garage just down the road from me has the stickers on the pumps (I checked today) & it's all 5% ethanol at the moment. It's also very good super at Esso garages, Bp is great as well.

The garage owners didn't have a clue? Seemingly they just sell it.

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