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 Post subject: Oil filter tip
PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:00 pm 
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Serviced the Buell today. Anyone else do this to protect against the filter coming loose. ImageB94A5141-C134-449B-85CA-E95A1015AE6C by Russell Duncan, on Flickr

It looks a bit like the Jubilee clip buckle is fouling the oil pipe but I can assert that it isn’t ImageC6E89BAC-7C5F-4303-A833-2EF7BD457F5C by Russell Duncan, on Flickr

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 Post subject: Re: Oil filter tip
PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 6:19 pm 
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I've never had that problem

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 Post subject: Re: Oil filter tip
PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 6:33 pm 
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Nor has anyone else as far as I'm aware :?

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 Post subject: Re: Oil filter tip
PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 6:42 pm 
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Usually the opposite, hard to get off. The rubber grips like hell once warmed

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 Post subject: Re: Oil filter tip
PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 7:14 pm 
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:yt: its in the ACU handbook for road racing " Sump plug, oil filters, Ignition pickup covers and Clutch centre covers should all be lock wired or lock plated."
IIRC in the early days of the Suzuki GSXR racing they lost a few filters , high rev's, high flow rate ,cooling as well as lube or the result of incorrectly fitted , but rules soon appeared to ensure mechanically locked .


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 Post subject: Re: Oil filter tip
PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 7:01 pm 
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Never ever had an oil filter come loose on any vehicle , the only. time I've heard it happen was with aftermarket filters that would screw on to the engine BUT were actually the wrong thread.

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 Post subject: Re: Oil filter tip
PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 11:21 am 
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I had the filter on my Ducati 1198 come loose after taking part in the Ramsey Sprint. I hate worm drive clips because they can be a bit 'pinchy', so made my own clamp. Mine is the only instance I know of this happening.

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 Post subject: Re: Oil filter tip
PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 1:41 pm 
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Adam wrote:
I had the filter on my Ducati 1198 come loose after taking part in the Ramsey Sprint. I hate worm drive clips because they can be a bit 'pinchy', so made my own clamp. Mine is the only instance I know of this happening.

So - You were either a victim of Murphy's Law (what can go wrong etc...) or the Spanish Inquisition (nobody expects etc.....).

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 Post subject: Re: Oil filter tip
PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 5:48 pm 
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Totally get what folks are saying about effectively fixing a problem that doesn't exist. My take is that the bike is a total unknown to me so far and this is a 50 pence insurance policy against disaster. I've always done this since the days when I used to prep race bikes. (Longer ago than I care to remember) Maybe not necessary but it's reassuring.

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 Post subject: Re: Oil filter tip
PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:01 am 
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:yt: I also do the oil drain plug as well ( lockwire) :yup:

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 Post subject: Re: Oil filter tip
PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 8:31 am 
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The jubilee clip idea is recommended on Guzzi V11s like I own. The filter is inside the sump and has been known to unscrew so no oil dripping on the floor to warn you, the first sign would be loss of oil pressure and a scrap engine.


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 Post subject: Re: Oil filter tip
PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:13 am 
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barney wrote:
:yt: I also do the oil drain plug as well ( lockwire) :yup:

I might do that yet, there's NFW I'm tightening it to 40nm like the manual says, that's for sure. (Surely that's a mis-print?). The OCD is strong in this one so i might buy a new drain plug and wire that one. I've used the Loctite 565 that the manual suggests but it's not a product i've ever used before.

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 Post subject: Re: Oil filter tip
PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 11:15 am 
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johne wrote:
The jubilee clip idea is recommended on Guzzi V11s like I own. The filter is inside the sump and has been known to unscrew so no oil dripping on the floor to warn you, the first sign would be loss of oil pressure and a scrap engine.


That's a handy place to keep it! You must like your big V-Twins. Had a Guzzi 1000SP before. A friend has it now. Bags of character that thing.

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 Post subject: Re: Oil filter tip
PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:51 pm 
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Tick wrote:
barney wrote:
:yt: I also do the oil drain plug as well ( lockwire) :yup:

I might do that yet, there's NFW I'm tightening it to 40nm like the manual says, that's for sure. (Surely that's a mis-print?).

:yt: new o ring and nip it up ,then lockwire :yup: you sound like you've been around bikes long enough to know when things are tight . big lumpy twins do tend to vibrate and things fall off , I like Loctite 222 , just a low strength screw lock on fasteners .

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