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PostPosted: 27 May 2009 20:08 
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Funny that, mine works every time using a syringe with rubber pipe on it. handy size, no mess and I know exactly how much goes in. I tested the idea on the bench before fitting the mod.
Still :maz: knows best ;)


You saying that, I just tried the syringe again and really gave a good shove on it, figuring it can't do any harm if using a grease gun is ok... I've got a short length of rubber pipe that fits well to syringe and grease nipple at either end... Pushed on the plunger as hard as I could but it wouldn't budge!

Oh well... try the grease gun now methinks...

EDIT: Just had one last go with the syringe and this time it worked :D

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PostPosted: 27 May 2009 20:26 
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Using grease will more likely hydraulic the plug out.

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PostPosted: 27 May 2009 20:33 
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Who said they where using grease? not me sir! I only use the finnest g/box lub bought from your good self. Why would you put grease in a gearbox that is lubed by oil that would be daft. wouldn't it????? :roll:


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PostPosted: 27 May 2009 20:36 
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Someone mentioned a dry lubricant. I fully realise you're only talking a few ml's of lube, but any dry lubricant like graphite or moly disulphide is never a good idea where a sprag clutch or a plate clutch is concerned.

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PostPosted: 27 May 2009 20:48 
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Nate wrote:
Just been reading the manual!
Those needle bearings are built up with some grease on them!
So what harm would come from adding a small amount of say a mol' grease or that molyslip stuff????

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Says so in the manual softley! Maz has a point though, bollocking in grease will pop that seal out for sure. 03 is right about the graphite stuff n' clutches too.

I'm thinking these bearings aren't helped any the bike being on it side stand for hours, now if I could just lay the bike over on it's right side all night that would keep oil there a treat :yup:

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PostPosted: 27 May 2009 21:49 
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just for clarification (and I hope Maz will correct me if I'm wrong) the bearings we are talking about here are the needle roller jobbies that are up the middle of what is referred to in the manual as the Main Drive Gear and these are assembled with sport-trans fluid. we are not talking about the main bearing (ball's) that supports the Main Drive Gear. the MDG is a tube with splines on one end for the front rubber band sprocket and a gear on the other end to take the drive from the gear train. Up the centre of the MDG runs one of the gear cluster shafts (can't remember which one). The problem is that the needle rollers get little or no lube from the box proper because any that does get there has to come via spinning cog (splash) and that is unlikely to happen much. I do not think there is a seal on the inner end of the MDG so what lube you put in will sooner or latter work its way out. Please correct me if I’m wrong.


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PostPosted: 28 May 2009 00:30 
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greasemonkey wrote:
as a check for peace of mind Dunno, try unscrewing the nipple and see how much trans+ you can get in there before it overflows :idea: you won't have to worry about hydraulicing the plug out then (assuming you don't stuff the syringe pipe in with gusto)


Ta for that, GM :)
Although if I go fiddling with it, I'll probably bugger it up somehow!

I'm booked in at Maz's 3 weeks from now... I'll mither him about it then!

Great idea, that grease nipple doohicky :)

But obviously not foolproof :oooops:

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PostPosted: 28 May 2009 16:44 
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Section 6 page 39, about the grease, in the manual :old:

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PostPosted: 28 May 2009 19:40 
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Sorry but there is no mention of Grease on my page 39 section 6. see here
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PostPosted: 28 May 2009 22:49 
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Thats strange :?
How did you get that page pasted? Me being useless with computers!

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Anyone want to write it up for the How To section?

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PostPosted: 29 May 2009 08:42 
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Yes, if you like I will do it but I have no pics of the original seal in place. having said that i could steel a pic from somewhere ;) You may have to check spelling etc.


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PostPosted: 29 May 2009 17:06 
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Just looked in a friends HD 883 manual, says the same, grease them on rebuild!

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PostPosted: 29 May 2009 17:18 
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:idea: Grease is just oil in a "sponge like paste" so maybe it's a tacit admission that oil doesn't get to the bearing easily and that the grease will help it out.
I've never come across a service manual yet that is totally correct,complete or not partly robbed from what came before - I should know, I used to write them for a living :roll:


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PostPosted: 29 May 2009 17:23 
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softley wrote:
Yes, if you like I will do it but I have no pics of the original seal in place. having said that i could steel a pic from somewhere ;) You may have to check spelling etc.


If you take a picture how it is now, we can find a picture of what it looks like before quite easily...

Your spelling is much better than some people's ;)

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