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 Post subject: Anyone know?
PostPosted: 02 Jul 2019 13:41 
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…..what thread form a 9/16 20tpi thread is? It's not BSF,UNF or CEI lOl (It's on the crank mainshaft of a Velocette)

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 Post subject: Re: Anyone know?
PostPosted: 02 Jul 2019 16:13 
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Sounds like British Standard Cycle. Tracey Tools will sell you taps and dies...

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 Post subject: Re: Anyone know?
PostPosted: 02 Jul 2019 18:27 
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 Post subject: Re: Anyone know?
PostPosted: 02 Jul 2019 20:47 
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Cycle thread was my first choice too, but it turns out to be 26tpi. UNF is the nearest at 18 tpi (I think?)

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 Post subject: Re: Anyone know?
PostPosted: 02 Jul 2019 21:54 
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9/16 - 20 is the thread size that’s been used on bicycle pedals since the beginning of time... It’s a BSC as far as I know...

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 Post subject: Re: Anyone know?
PostPosted: 03 Jul 2019 03:57 
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Nick is of course spot on about bicycle pedals. 9/16" 20 tpi is BSCy thread and is also Unified Extra Fine (USA thread). In both cases, they are 60 degree thread form as opposed to other British Standard Thread forms that are typically 55 degrees angle. Since they are used for bicycle pedals, taps and dies are widely available in that size.

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 Post subject: Re: Anyone know?
PostPosted: 03 Jul 2019 06:19 
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a very quick and easy google search for 9/16 20 tpi and you get
https://www.amazon.com/20-Right-Left-Ha ... B075N48H1S

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 Post subject: Re: Anyone know?
PostPosted: 03 Jul 2019 06:32 
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looks like it's a unified USA standard thread
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2PCS-9-16-20 ... Sw0RBc66W1

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 Post subject: Re: Anyone know?
PostPosted: 03 Jul 2019 08:00 
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barney wrote:
looks like it's a unified USA standard thread
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2PCS-9-16-20 ... Sw0RBc66W1

Correct. It is a 9/16-20 UN thread per the machinists handbook.

And the others are correct about it being a bicycle pedal thread. Apparently, I'm the neighborhood bike repair guy so I have a set for cleaning up botched threads, not that it does you any good from here. Thanks to $2000+ bikes not coming with pedals anymore, it's amazing how many people fuck up their cranks when they try to install their $300 platform pedals. Righty tighty, eh? lOl

I hope you're not asking because you need a nut. Difficult to find. None of my fastener sources at work have them and UN threads are common in oil and gas equipment, just not that small. Might have to make one.

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 Post subject: Re: Anyone know?
PostPosted: 03 Jul 2019 08:02 
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03 wrote:
Nick is of course spot on about bicycle pedals. 9/16" 20 tpi is BSCy thread and is also Unified Extra Fine (USA thread). In both cases, they are 60 degree thread form as opposed to other British Standard Thread forms that are typically 55 degrees angle. Since they are used for bicycle pedals, taps and dies are widely available in that size.

9/16"- 24 is actually UNEF. 20 is just UN.

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 Post subject: Re: Anyone know?
PostPosted: 03 Jul 2019 09:32 
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x1glider wrote:
03 wrote:
Nick is of course spot on about bicycle pedals. 9/16" 20 tpi is BSCy thread and is also Unified Extra Fine (USA thread). In both cases, they are 60 degree thread form as opposed to other British Standard Thread forms that are typically 55 degrees angle. Since they are used for bicycle pedals, taps and dies are widely available in that size.

9/16"- 24 is actually UNEF. 20 is just UN.

I stand corrected, sir :!:

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 Post subject: Re: Anyone know?
PostPosted: 03 Jul 2019 11:22 
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Turns out my confusion has arisen from assuming that British Standard Cycle (BSC) thread is the same as Cycle Engineers Institute (CEI)! The Die I borrowed is etched as 'Cycle' as has 26tpi, this obviously must be CEI. You're advice about 'standard' cycle is spot on, as this is 20tpi.
I'm surprised that there's nothing mentioned in my Zeus book. Fire up the Myford!!! lOl

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 Post subject: Re: Anyone know?
PostPosted: 03 Jul 2019 12:59 
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Adam wrote:
Turns out my confusion has arisen from assuming that British Standard Cycle (BSC) thread is the same as Cycle Engineers Institute (CEI)! The Die I borrowed is etched as 'Cycle' as has 26tpi, this obviously must be CEI. You're advice about 'standard' cycle is spot on, as this is 20tpi.
I'm surprised that there's nothing mentioned in my Zeus book. Fire up the Myford!!! lOl

NOT IN THE ZEUS BOOK :!: :?:
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 Post subject: Re: Anyone know?
PostPosted: 03 Jul 2019 13:04 
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I was just as surprised. UNEF is in there along with ME threads, which I've never come across, but the commonly used Cycle thread = nil!

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Adam wrote:
I was just as surprised. UNEF is in there along with ME threads, which I've never come across, but the commonly used Cycle thread = nil!

A LOOOOONG time since I looked in a Zeus book! Longer than I care to remember.

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