Glad you got it sorted, Andy.

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Mine is in for a service on Tueday with West Coast.

It's a hard toss up between using them and "working from home" for the day or using edinburgh "we can't tighten up mirrors properly*" and having to go to work for the day.

Going to give WCH another try and see what happens.





* Bought the bike from EHD and my first ever ride home was completed with the mirrors genetly slapping off my arms as I rode along the m8. Wasn't a great start to buell ownership

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Pitch forks, kicking off, video cameras - bit harsh! Only kick off if the shop is being unreasonable surely?

On a similar note. Please correct me if I'm wrong (I'm sure Norm would love too) but after my first service and a few miles of riding my front header nuts vibrated off causing the header pipe to pop out of the cylinder. Now cause I have an aftermarket headers fitted, they prevent the RH black plastic cover (opposite side to the scoop) from being removed - covers one screw. I think my local HD removed my front header in order to remove the plastic trim when inspecting my bike (is removing this trim part of the 1st service inspection?). Anyway, when the header came out I stopped my bike. eventually got it fixed and the bike ran very similar to AndyC bike thereafter. HD sales manager was quite narked when I suggested I thought the exhaust coming off was there fault! Said they did not touch my exhaust!

Anyway, my bike went back to have an alarm fitted (insurance requirement) and whilst in there I asked them to look at my bike which was intermittently but frequently playing up like AndyC bike. One day before it went in I fitted a borrowed Remus Optimiser and a Piper Cross air filter to see if that upgrade would give the bike better performance I needed since changing headers. The intermittent problem happened on the Sunday, I fitted the performance parts on the Wed, in HD on the Thur. They told me no error codes registered but my fuelling was all over the place and before they could take it any further I would have to return the bike back to stock - which was bollocks and really Pd me off as it wasn't the parts fitted causing the problem!

My bike seems back to normal now but since I have had one experience of it stalling whilst on a roundabout and occasionally it will miss a beat when ticking over. Been this way since buying the bike. I put it down to the characteristics of a Buell!

When your bike goes for a service and comes back with a fault, I'd call that unreasonable. As it happend WCHD, to give them their due, seem to have reacted well and sorted the problem. Not all dealers would have done so.

Look around the message board at the troubles people are having with their Buells and the reaction of some dealers and of Buell UK. Adam, who has more enthusiasm for the marque than most, has been out and bought some pile of Italian tat because of his experiences with the 1125 and he has had support from one of the best Buell dealers in the country.

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Rather than being pd off with them, consider it from their perspective briefly.

You've taken in a bike with fuelling issues on which you have made some fairly big changes to things which would affect the fuelling. They don't have all the history, they hadn't been given an opportunity to test it as a stock bike so they would have to return it to standard to remove the most obvious (to them) cause of the problems.

Whether it did cause the issues or not, they aren't going to do warranty work around stuff which you have added, they'd need it standard to get the base set up working, anything which goes wrong after that is your issue, not warranty.

That's what I'd do and probably what they would do if the same thing happened again.

Should you have added that stuff the day before it went in to be checked?

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Iwoo said "Italian tat "

Are you still on that old British iron

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Spot on Norm

PH4824.....no the RH 'scoop' does not need removing for service......WTF would a dealer want to do warranty work on your ineptly self fitted aftermarket exhaust system ??.....you were joking, right ?

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I have two bikes at the moment: the X1 and the Triumph 1050 Sprint ST which only qualifies it as British Iron. However, I reserve the right to acquire another money pit, sorry, another excellent product of the legendary British Bike industry. Pat (the Cold Place) was trying to convince me that this time I should rotate and not recipricate. I'll ponder that for a while before making a rash move.

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Clearly there has been a major quality control failure at WCHD. They don't use the monicer "WC" without good reason.

Somehow, for some unexplained reason, they appear to have let some unsuspecting Buell owner walk away satisfied.

Obviously they will be rapidly reviewing all of their internal procedures and protocols to ensure that this oversight never occurs again.

(Guess which dealer I bought my bike from!)

Me - bitter? - never! But come the revolution, I know who'll be first up against the wall. I'm normally pretty easy-going, but WC are such an utter bunch of ******* that I make an exception in their case. As a friend of mine is want to say "some people are only alive because its illegal to shoot them".

(Rant not over, but on hold for now!)

Dave

Sorry mate I aint going to let that stand and I don't care how "respected" you are on this site! You don't know me, you haven't a clue how my exhaust was fitted as you weren't there yet you have the nerve to criticise how my exhaust was fitted! There's no need to be rude just cause you know more, cause clearly in this case you havn't a clue!

fyi the original header flange nuts were all torqued up so how they vibrated free I don't know? Seemed to much of a coincidence for the header to pop out after a service don't you think? In hindside spring washers should have been used but there you go, I've learned something new!

Rant over!

I agree to a point. Thing is I spoke to HD before buying the bike about which exhaust blah blah blah and the remus powerizer and an air filter was recommended when changing the exhaust system as they recommend similar for harley owners when they change their exhausts. Not very customer friendly when they request all performance parts they recommended to be taken off before they look any further. Infact they were placing the blame with the fuelling of the powerizer tbh which did annoy me. We're not talking about home made mods but professional parts from reputable companies specifically for these bikes. Seems a cop out to me!

My bike was running well after over 400 miles with my exhaust. The only thing that changed was the poor running since exhaust header poped out. Obviously upset the fuelling but it was intermittent. I've been careful to only start the bike since then when the engine management light has gone out and the bike is running normal again. So who knows it might have been my starting sequence, I don't know? There has been one occasion where the bike was ticking over and went lumpy where the idle was all over the place, and another time where it misfired whilst on a roundabout and stalled as I was going around it at the time! That was a scary moment!

There is no need to do that.

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Yeah you may be right but my problems were very similar to AndyC who created this post. And when your bike rides rough as rats intermittently and HD say there's nothing they can find you tend to look for anything to solve the problem and waiting for the management light to go out before starting seemed conceivable!

Your problems are more than likely a result of not following the tips from Maz below.




I'd be checking those connectors, and the sensors to which they go to for damage.

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I know exactly how you fitted the headers because you published a blow by blow write up.
The reason the nuts came loose and the header 'popped out' is because you aint got a clue what you're doing with these motors....you just proved that by suggesting spring washers for the header nuts ......and BTW the torque settings for these nuts is BS.
You did of course use new nuts and retainer rings didn't you
Why would anyone go anywhere near your exhaust header nuts whilst doing a service....as I said the RH scoop never needs removing unless the engine is rotated (properly).

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