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PostPosted: 28 Mar 2011 23:14 
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PostPosted: 29 Mar 2011 10:28 
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Mich, you frustrate me to death and make me very sad at the same time :x

Maz, you take this whole 'Buell' thing waaaayyyyy too seriously. Maybe you should take up a hobby on the side you take your mind off bikes in the evenings? Like flying a kite or stroking kittens? ;) lOl

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PostPosted: 29 Mar 2011 10:32 
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Ash wrote:
In general, (not aimed at you Mich in particular) I wonder why riders set their tyre pressures to what they think is best, based on thier own theories of grip, handling etc.

The manufacturers have spent years and millions in testing these tyres to give us the pressures best to use based on years of tried, tested and qualified methods .... why then would you use anything else unless you are racing on the track or have a very particular riding style :?


Well, I understand that I made a genuine mistake with those tyre pressures. I've always run my bikes at 34'ish on the rear and 28-30ish on the front. Only increasing it with a pillion. I've never had ANY problems with those values (I.e. no odd tyre wear, grip issues in wet or dry or under breaking...), and they're certainly not maaadly low. So you can forgive me for assuming that these values would be fine for the Buell.
I raised the values on Saturday when I took the bike out for a ride and the handling was much better in terms of tipping into corners. You learn something new every day! ;)

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PostPosted: 29 Mar 2011 12:20 
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Ash wrote:
The manufacturers have spent years and millions in testing these tyres to give us the pressures best to use based on years of tried, tested and qualified methods .... why then would you use anything else unless you are racing on the track or have a very particular riding style :?


I didn't look up pressures for a X1 but for my beemer, and each and every tyre manufacturer recommends f 2.5/r 2.9 bar (f 36/r 42 psi), although tyre damping/stiffness is quite different for tyres even from the same manufacturer (I do remember having posted some links to Dave Moss's videos re suspension adjustment, where he showed how different tyres react when you push them).

Found the link again: http://www.onthethrottle.com/howto/reru ... ung-tires/

Wouldn't you agree with me, that it doesn't seem right to run them all with the same tyre pressure then?

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PostPosted: 29 Mar 2011 13:51 
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Thanks for posting that link Gunter. Very good video! :yup: And it shows that I wasn't being a complete idiot as implied by some of the drama queens. Changing tyre pressure is perfectly permissible (on the track, so why not on the road?) to play with grip levels. I am an adult and I pick my own choices, so it is my own decision to do this on the road. What I didn't know is that there is such a big difference in carcass stiffness, so one tyre will respond more to a lower pressure then another. That's basically why running 32-34 on the rear on my previous bikes didn't have the same effect as on the Buell. All of my previous 6 bikes worked absolutely fine like that with great feel, grip, stability under breaking, etc. That's why I took this as a starting point.

I just wish we could all have a more mature conversation on this forum sometimes and leave the emotional bits out of it. :roll:

And I don't mean you Gunter! ;)

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PostPosted: 29 Mar 2011 19:16 
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mich wrote:
Maz wrote:
Mich, you frustrate me to death and make me very sad at the same time :x

Maz, you take this whole 'Buell' thing waaaayyyyy too seriously. Maybe you should take up a hobby on the side you take your mind off bikes in the evenings? Like flying a kite or stroking kittens? ;) lOl


Well, at least someone is taking Buell seriously, and to many owners' benefit ;)

An ex-colleague mine spent a fortune fitting an electronic Ohlins steering damper to his Duc 748 while all the bike really needed was a little more air in the tyre and a ring or 2 worht of preload. Pointless spending on fashionable bling seems rather typical for modern biking. Sad indeed, although I chose to see the amusing side of it lOl


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