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 Post subject: Re: The bonding
PostPosted: 23 Oct 2009 13:30 
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modern bike builders can't expect to stay in business if they keep trying to use the bikers who pay good money for there product as guinea pigs for there supposedly inuative bikes.


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 Post subject: Re: The bonding
PostPosted: 23 Oct 2009 15:10 
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OK, no bearings, then. My bad.

And as to my list, what I like about it is that one can work on the bikes for these repairs, maintenance and performance improvements. When online bike forums have how-to's for helpful tips for getting to the sparkplugs of a bike (XB), you know you are headed down a dark, twisted path when it comes to the serious stuff.

It would be a dream (and yes, there are those who would say, "nightmare" :lol: ) for me to own a proper tube-framed, carbeurated Buell, so I could attack it as one would attack a good, old-fashioned American muscle-car. You know, the ones where you can actually get to the engine parts without getting tangled in a bunch of tubing and wire.

Meanwhile, I will just enjoy the hell out of my XB and my Blast, cuz it's what I have fer now.

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 Post subject: Re: The bonding
PostPosted: 23 Oct 2009 18:29 
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Errrr my gearbox output bearing failed :!:
The belt had snapped, and as Maz was taking the bike apart for the new belt-he pointed out the gearbox was locked-I was about to throw in the towel when he said 'Nah, I reckon it's the output bearing"
The bike was already on the stand so I'm guessing but it probably took 25mins to get the box out and confirm the problem-I decided not to throw in the towel then!!
Norm also had his output bearing changed....but thats another story-Eh Maz :?: :twisted: :lol: :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: The bonding
PostPosted: 23 Oct 2009 19:04 
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Motorrad wrote:
It would be a dream (and yes, there are those who would say, "nightmare" :lol: ) for me to own a proper tube-framed, carbeurated Buell, so I could attack it as one would attack a good, old-fashioned American muscle-car. You know, the ones where you can actually get to the engine parts without getting tangled in a bunch of tubing and wire.


That's why I love my S1... Tubers are less than half the price your end of the pond than they are here...

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Errrr my gearbox output bearing failed :!:
The belt had snapped, and as Maz was taking the bike apart for the new belt-he pointed out the gearbox was locked-I was about to throw in the towel when he said 'Nah, I reckon it's the output bearing"
The bike was already on the stand so I'm guessing but it probably took 25mins to get the box out and confirm the problem-I decided not to throw in the towel then!!
Norm also had his output bearing changed....but thats another story-Eh Maz :?: :twisted: :lol: :lol:


What? Those bearings only fail on XBs.... :shock:

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 Post subject: Re: The bonding
PostPosted: 23 Oct 2009 19:26 
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pash wrote:
Motorrad wrote:
It would be a dream (and yes, there are those who would say, "nightmare" :lol: ) for me to own a proper tube-framed, carbeurated Buell, so I could attack it as one would attack a good, old-fashioned American muscle-car. You know, the ones where you can actually get to the engine parts without getting tangled in a bunch of tubing and wire.


That's why I love my S1... Tubers are less than half the price your end of the pond than they are here...

Beef wrote:
Errrr my gearbox output bearing failed :!:
The belt had snapped, and as Maz was taking the bike apart for the new belt-he pointed out the gearbox was locked-I was about to throw in the towel when he said 'Nah, I reckon it's the output bearing"
The bike was already on the stand so I'm guessing but it probably took 25mins to get the box out and confirm the problem-I decided not to throw in the towel then!!
Norm also had his output bearing changed....but thats another story-Eh Maz :?: :twisted: :lol: :lol:


What? Those bearings only fail on XBs.... :shock:

Nope can fail on any model........BUT...........on a tuber are relatively cheap to replace due to the cassette gearbox ;)

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 Post subject: Re: The bonding
PostPosted: 23 Oct 2009 21:09 
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pash wrote:
That's why I love my S1... Tubers are less than half the price your end of the pond than they are here...

Here's the current lot. Runs the gamut, really. But it's not often that one finds well-sorted ones:
S1w - custom
or:
M2
or:
Good condition but no mod's S1W
or:
Pearl White S1W

If I weren't struggling so much right now to keep the world from coming undone.......

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 Post subject: Re: The bonding
PostPosted: 23 Oct 2009 21:18 
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Motorrad wrote:


I like those two, prefer colours to tones, so the red one floats my boat.

Shame they are not wearing the race exhaust...

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 Post subject: Re: The bonding
PostPosted: 23 Oct 2009 21:58 
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Here's a Colourful S1W for ya then, Pash ;)

Lot's of work to be done on most I've seen - lots more than just the pipe :(

All tone (sorry Pash), but Black, and with a generous posterior.

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 Post subject: Re: The bonding
PostPosted: 23 Oct 2009 22:39 
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That's nice. Second one didn't work.

But $3000 is my limit I am afraid...

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 Post subject: Re: The bonding
PostPosted: 24 Oct 2009 14:46 
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pash wrote:
That's nice. Second one didn't work.

Must have already sold - a nicely sorted M2.
pash wrote:
But $3000 is my limit I am afraid...

That's the problem right there: $3000 can get you a bike, but it'll surely need a good shock that will eat up nearly another grand. Then how much just for the parts cost of all the other bits you would want to have?
I just don't have the pleasure of having had the experience of riding S1's, sorted and/or not. Once you have ridden a properly set-up example, are you not spoiled for good, and therefore no longer content with the stock kit?

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 Post subject: Re: The bonding
PostPosted: 26 Oct 2009 01:10 
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TFD ...never read so much garbage in a long time, didn't realise I'd ever tried to discuss business with you ? :roll:

Maz you are , of course, quite right. You do your business as you see fit.
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I dont hate any Buell

Maybe not but some statements of the XB range, for me anyway, have not always given trust in the bike. The "Bic-razor" comment is a real "shit dig" on the bike and not fair in any respect.
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as an enthusiast I'm just desperately disappointed with the XB range

I understand this but its not a perfect world. Nor are there perfect people wanting the perfect bike because there is no such thing. But hey, if thats your thinking, why the hell not.


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 Post subject: Re: The bonding
PostPosted: 26 Oct 2009 01:54 
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Maz wrote:
....no, just an experienced realist :idea:


I do not give a toss if it is a Tuber, XB, penny farthing with a supercharged 400 cubic inch engine or any other product for that matter. Tuber, XB what a bore :roll:. Old time religion.

It is a very well documented and proven fact that some of the early Buells had some serious reliability issues. That was noted in the buying market and was transfered, as it always is, to the newer version of the product.

I think a sorted early Buell is probably a great bike but I do not, then or now, have the luxury of someone who can sort them on my doorstep. It is enough of a problem to get my local HD dealer to give me the same size plugs and, given that it only has two to start with, is a real pain. I do a 140 mile round trip, to The Foundry, because they are the best I can find around here and that is just for an MOT.

I remember, VERY WELL, your comments the first time I came to this site. Cheese this, cheese that or cheese with cheese. You bought an XB "chuck-it in the river" your a moron for buying such a piece of shite. A great endorsement for the brand and only second to saying you get a free bought of "the clap" with your purchase.

I have always wondered why, given your hate of the XB range, you still spanner them. You do not have to. Do you. After all why would you soil your hands with such a poor "not a real Buell" bike.

Maybe, while you sit in your Ivory tower with you bikes and books, you might consider how much your comments have had an effect on those who have wanted to go with the brand.

Reality :?:. I dont do mail order :?:. Fair enough, Dude. Do as you wish its your life. Dont talk business, with people like me who do it, here though because you got about as much idea as "chop-ng cotton". Myself and family have been doing it for more than 60 years.

U-err Mr Grimly. Like I give a Fook.



As you say, you don't work on your bike. Some of us do and I know which one is way easier to maintain - and I've owned quite a few of each type for quite a few years.


I spanner and always have all my, cars, bikes, aircraft, etc. Not a Tuber because I have an XB. Only went with the XB service for the GeeTee. If a Tuber is eaiser to maintain over an XB thats fine by me. I do not find the XB any worse to work on than any other modern bike and on some points much better.

I was brought up with bikes and cars. IMO the Buell XB range is a great design and something very special. The bike world will not see this for a number of years because most bikers are a bunch of numties.

Oh, does my kit match my wheels. If I buy an R1 will I get laid, Giggady-Gigaddy.


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 Post subject: Re: The bonding
PostPosted: 26 Oct 2009 10:03 
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If I buy an R1 will I get laid,

Whatever it takes, I think you need it. It'll save you sitting up at 3am to spend so long writing "I don't agree with your opinion".

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 Post subject: Re: The bonding
PostPosted: 26 Oct 2009 14:25 
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OK, my last word on this......

The Bic razor comment comes from real world experience of these bikes.
I've lost count of the number of customers who've either had to trade or scrap their XB because it was beyond economical repair.
The above is a direct consequence of the bikes design and manufacturing 'economies' ie. fragile frames that cannot be repaired, crankshaft and gearbox bearings that fail on a regular basis and cost more to replace than a bike is actually worth etc. etc.

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 Post subject: Re: The bonding
PostPosted: 26 Oct 2009 14:49 
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OK, my last word on this.......
I'm not taking bets.........

:hehe:

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