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 Post subject: Re: Choices, Choices!
PostPosted: 29 Jun 2010 21:38 
pash wrote:
In my experience, if you seek the Holy Grail, you need to weld two lambda sensor bosses on your headers. Maybe Trojan or Free Spirits would be interested in sponsoring the activity in exchange for a free map, or maybe you could persuade Albert666 to make you some slave header pipes for test purposes.

You then need to follow the process I used, on the old forum and in the tuning guide.


1. I don't want to weld anything my headers or have a set made
2. I don't do tuning, it's out of my depth and I don't have time but I happy to pay someone to do it for me!


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 Post subject: Re: Choices, Choices!
PostPosted: 29 Jun 2010 21:43 
pash wrote:
ph4824 wrote:
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ph4824 wrote:
5. I want the smoothest, fastest running buell possible!


You can't, I own the two smoothest, fasting running buells...


LOL yes but not for long!


Are you going to buy or steal my S1 and Firebolt?


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 Post subject: Re: Choices, Choices!
PostPosted: 29 Jun 2010 21:49 
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ph4824 wrote:
pash wrote:
In my experience, if you seek the Holy Grail, you need to weld two lambda sensor bosses on your headers. Maybe Trojan or Free Spirits would be interested in sponsoring the activity in exchange for a free map, or maybe you could persuade Albert666 to make you some slave header pipes for test purposes.

You then need to follow the process I used, on the old forum and in the tuning guide.


1. I don't want to weld anything my headers or have a set made
2. I don't do tuning, it's out of my depth and I don't have time but I happy to pay someone to do it for me!


Well, this means that you (or a selected tuner) won't be able to optimise your fuelling on your bike, so the answer is to buy a custom map.

Give Dris a ring at Twin Motorcycles, tell him I sent you ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Choices, Choices!
PostPosted: 29 Jun 2010 21:53 
pash wrote:
ph4824 wrote:
pash wrote:
In my experience, if you seek the Holy Grail, you need to weld two lambda sensor bosses on your headers. Maybe Trojan or Free Spirits would be interested in sponsoring the activity in exchange for a free map, or maybe you could persuade Albert666 to make you some slave header pipes for test purposes.

You then need to follow the process I used, on the old forum and in the tuning guide.


1. I don't want to weld anything my headers or have a set made
2. I don't do tuning, it's out of my depth and I don't have time but I happy to pay someone to do it for me!


Well, this means that you (or a selected tuner) won't be able to optimise your fuelling on your bike, so the answer is to buy a custom map.

Give Dris a ring at Twin Motorcycles, tell him I sent you ;)


I've been in contact with Dris and he seems confident he can provide a custom map for my exhaust. He's doing a map for a Buell with this exhaust in July apparantly!

I've also spoken to EBR and they can only recommend their programmable race ECM kit and told me to find a knowledgable tuner at a dyno!

All this advise, I'm trying to pick my way through it all as there are a few options hense why were chatting about this!


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 Post subject: Re: Choices, Choices!
PostPosted: 29 Jun 2010 22:10 
Popping

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tt0pQy0xfEY


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 Post subject: Re: Choices, Choices!
PostPosted: 29 Jun 2010 23:03 
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check that the can hasn't snapped off at the pipe, mine did and it sounded like that when it did.
Mine pops a lot but only when I'm giving it some beans, tbh your riding that like a poof.

Andy


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 Post subject: Re: Choices, Choices!
PostPosted: 29 Jun 2010 23:35 
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All this advise, I'm trying to prick my way through it all as there are a few options hense why were chatting about this!

:roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Choices, Choices!
PostPosted: 30 Jun 2010 07:43 
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Ph - Pash has just written an explanation on why your bike is running rough - which you disregard as being too complicated

He then tells you how to sort it out (welding in a boss for an extra O2 sensor) but you say that is a no-go, and that you "don't do tuning" but will pay for someone else to do it (as well as a fueller module), and a custom map.

He is giving you the correct answers, regardless if you want to hear them or not. Yet, you're persisting in taking your own tack with it even though it has been explained how it won't help.

Pash obviously knows the fuelling on these bikes inside out (while you admit you know basically nothing about it - as do I) - if I had your problems and received those answers I'd be asking Pash for a shopping list of stuff I need then offering him sexual favours to get down to Tubbs' dyno. You're all in the south of England right?

I can see you've tried to be reasonable (especially when when folk are giving you shit), and I don't have a dislike for you or anything - but you need to step back and realise that your ideas are wrong and the right ones are in this thread - you're just refusing to believe them.


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 Post subject: Re: Choices, Choices!
PostPosted: 30 Jun 2010 09:05 
Pash hadn't read my recent posts where I said several times I don't have a flat spot anymore! hence his indepth reply was really about trying to fix a flatspot! His answer was a home remedy, do it yourself fix which I'm not willing to do cause it's out of my depth!

Also, of course I'm not going to weld anything to my free spirits headers - who would!! No one I know! I may sell the system, not much good to me if they have welded bits on them is it?

I don't think Pash does know the fueling of my bike "inside and out" as he's openly admitted to me in the past that he's only worked on the pre 2008 bikes.

I believe (from what I've learned along the way) that my bike just needs correct fueling cause of what I've changed on my bike and I believe that will come in the form of either a new/edited map or possibly an add on tfi unit - hence why I booked my bike in for a dyno to see if my bike is running rich or lean. If it's running rich then a tfi is not the solution, if it's running lean then a tfi might be a cheap answer if correctly setup.

Just because people suggest different ideas doesn't mean I'm going to follow each one. I have to make my own mind up and part of that decission making process is gathering info from asking questions - why can't people see that without criticising.


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 Post subject: Re: Choices, Choices!
PostPosted: 30 Jun 2010 09:18 
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check that the can hasn't snapped off at the pipe, mine did and it sounded like that when it did.
Mine pops a lot but only when I'm giving it some beans, tbh your riding that like a poof.

Andy

I don't think anything is broken but it may be the front header gasket as it was shot when I reused it, only cause of my impatience, keenness and HD had none in stock. I plan to remove and refit with new ones when my order arrives.......but I will check!

I ride according to the conditions of the road - it's a bloody back lane!!


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 Post subject: Re: Choices, Choices!
PostPosted: 30 Jun 2010 09:25 
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Just saw this topic and got all excited, I thought it said 'Choc ices, choc ices....'

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 Post subject: Re: Choices, Choices!
PostPosted: 30 Jun 2010 09:53 
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ph4824 wrote:
if it's running lean then a tfi might be a cheap answer if correctly setup.


But you have understood, that this might help in open loop (accel, decel or wot) only, haven't you?

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 Post subject: Re: Choices, Choices!
PostPosted: 30 Jun 2010 10:00 
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But a TGI Friday Fueller wont address differences in requirements for front and rear fuelling which your headers are causing.

As for no experience on 08 engines, not quite true, however the method of change implementation is the same, regardless of the year of Buell...

As for a home remedy, I challenge you to find a solution that is better...

As for the dyno telling you if the bike is running rich or lean, you will not be able to tell. The rear could be running super rich and the front lean, and you would never know...

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 Post subject: Re: Choices, Choices!
PostPosted: 30 Jun 2010 10:50 
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spen wrote:
Just saw this topic and got all excited, I thought it said 'Choc ices, choc ices....'


hmmmm....choooooooocolate....


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 Post subject: Choices, Choices!
PostPosted: 30 Jun 2010 11:08 
spen wrote:
Just saw this topic and got all excited, I thought it said 'Choc ices, choc ices....'


No that's my next thread!


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