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 Post subject: Closed down
PostPosted: 20 Nov 2024 12:32 
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Southampton ('Dockgate 20') and Plymouth, the latest casualties.
Many bike dealerships are closing their doors, these two both citing the increased burden of NI as the final straw that broke a marginally profitable business's back.

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 Post subject: Re: Closed down
PostPosted: 20 Nov 2024 12:51 
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That's a shame :sad1:
First of many to come I fear

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 Post subject: Re: Closed down
PostPosted: 20 Nov 2024 14:07 
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JW Groombridge recently closed near me.

I used to go there on my moped (at 16, I'm 67 now!)

Good news though, a new Ducati dealership is opening near Hailsham, just a couple of miles from the Harley dealer Sykes.


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 Post subject: Re: Closed down
PostPosted: 20 Nov 2024 19:55 
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rik wrote:
Southampton ('Dockgate 20') and Plymouth, the latest casualties.
Many bike dealerships are closing their doors, these two both citing the increased burden of NI as the final straw that broke a marginally profitable business's back.


Finmows wrote:
That's a shame :sad1:
First of many to come I fear


:yt: sadly writings has been on the wall for years , as no new young blood to replace us old ones , sales figures have been getting lower and lower as the years go by .
youth of today more inclined to be using an E scooter rather than a moped.

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 Post subject: Re: Closed down
PostPosted: 20 Nov 2024 21:14 
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Older bike prices have dropped at auction , bikes Ive sold have been 40% less than a few years ago . Deceased sales are the norm now with collections being sold off for whatever they reach. Italian stuff plummeted, class British held up a bit, Jap stuff has to be mint to be a deal.
Agree that "Kids" don`t give a look at it all.


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 Post subject: Re: Closed down
PostPosted: 20 Nov 2024 21:43 
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A lot of doom and gloom in the motorcycle trade at present. Not sure what is going on in the Harley-Davidson world but they seem to be trying to attract new audiences and failing and in the meantime alienating some of their existing customer base. Their prices seem to be continually rising and they don't have reasonably priced entry level machines like we had in my day. It's ten years now since I left Black Bear. Lind who took us over have recently closed their H-D dealerships in Norwich, Reading and Watford. The Watford site still has the adjoining Triumph dealership and they are replacing H-D with Ducati. Newmarket is still an H-D dealership but they are also taking on Yamaha as has Sycamore H-D in Uppingham.

Southampton and Plymouth who were part of the Marsh group went in to administration yesterday along with their sister dealerships with both Triumph and Yamaha in Plymouth. They blamed pressure from manufacturers to hold large stocks along with financial pressures post-Covid and those inflicted on businesses by the recent budget. As well as JW Groombridge both Pidcocks in Nottingham and Saltire in Scotland have gone recently as well as a large chain of dealerships Completely Motorcycles who seemed to have over stretched themselves in acquiring a large number of smaller dealerships.

On the plus side the Ducati dealership mentioned by Just John is being opened by Sykes Harley-Davidson who also have big expansion plans and seem to be doing the right things in attracting new customers as well as serving their existing customers well.

I've been picking my pension up for a couple of years now but still work part time as a salesman for Greenham Kawasaki in Newbury. I like to think we do things the right way and still generate a lot of business including sales to younger riders which I find quite heartening. We were Kawasaki's top dealer this year for both number of sales and customer satisfaction. We are however in quite a unique situation. We are owned by Kawasaki and, although we don't get any preferential treatment we are fortunate to have a good relationship with KMUK staff and don't carry the burden of stocking charges which other dealers face.

Interesting what Topgumm has to say about auctions. I did some work a couple of years ago for Silverstone Auctions who have now changed their name to Iconic. They had a really successful auction at the NEC recently with record takings although I haven't studied the individual prices. One sale was to a mate of mine - a low mileage, fairly original White Lightning for £5940 including buyer's fee. Probably would have made more a couple of years ago but not bad in the current climate.

It doesn't seem to be just the motorcycle trade suffering at present, I'm hearing similar tales from the motor trade. Hold on tight, folks, we seem to be in for a bumpy ride!

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 Post subject: Re: Closed down
PostPosted: 21 Nov 2024 09:22 
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I’d Just like to say a very well written and educated read. My local independent motorcycle shop which I use for mot’s are always busy, his second hand bike sales are strong but he did mention Groombridge motorcycles had closed .Apparently stock you can’t sell has to be paid for if your a main dealer.
Let’s not forget the employees who are losing their jobs.

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 Post subject: Re: Closed down
PostPosted: 21 Nov 2024 20:32 
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Johnnyboy34 wrote:
Apparently stock you can’t sell has to be paid for if your a main dealer.
Johnny.


That's what I mean by stocking charges, Johnny. They vary from one franchise to another and also seasonally. Typically a bike will be delivered to you on interest free terms for 90 days, from then up until 180 days you pay interest on the loan and at the end of this period or when you sell it, if that comes sooner, you pay for it in full. That's the stage where dealers without much cash behind them will discount the hell out of it to preserve their cash flow and destabilise the market taking sales from others who then find themselves in the same situation when their stock reaches the same stage.

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 Post subject: Re: Closed down
PostPosted: 21 Nov 2024 23:08 
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Thanks for that Steve :yup:
Its nice to "sort of" know whats going on regarding dealerships and how they work....gives a good reflection on how the world of motorcycling is going (not very good the way I see it)

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 Post subject: Re: Closed down
PostPosted: 21 Nov 2024 23:37 
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:sad1:
sad news for all the staff with no work some apparently owed wages too :sad1:


well written Steve :yup:

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 Post subject: Re: Closed down
PostPosted: 23 Nov 2024 10:17 
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:yt: to all the above :sad1: times indeed .

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