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Author:  Motorrad [ 23 Mar 2010 19:59 ]
Post subject:  Different tyre front/rear?
MOT verdict: new front tyre needed on S1W. Rear is Avon, almost new. I've never been faced with this issue before, of needing a front tyre only, and wanting to switch manufacturer. I don't really want to feel locked into Avons, so I would prefer to get a different front tyre, so I can match it in some thousands of miles. Any concern over mis-matched tread types on front versus rear?
Author:  Nutah [ 23 Mar 2010 20:01 ]
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yes , i wouldn't , a difference in grip front an rear, could cause some serious probs :shock:
Author:  Motorrad [ 23 Mar 2010 20:40 ]
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Maybe best then to go with Avon front, then see where I am with things once the rear wears out.
Author:  whichway? [ 24 Mar 2010 22:03 ]
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try it :!: let us know how you get on........i can say from experiance that a avon roadrunner on the front with a dunlop red arrow on the rear of a 1970 cb750k1 is not good.. :shock: :shock: :shock:

whichway?
Author:  kevmean [ 24 Mar 2010 22:07 ]
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Square avon on the rear and a triangular dunlop race tyre on the front on a 400honda 4 handled suprisingly well lOl
Author:  Docca [ 24 Mar 2010 22:12 ]
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You might be surprised to know that the sky won't fall in. ;)

I've no issues bunnhopping my tyres. Pair of Diablos on until last month, but the rear was down to the wire. So swapped that out with a Michelin Pilot road 2. Long-lasting rear and front still tips in quickly.

The Tuono and the Tls all had Avon storms on the rear and diablos on the front, too. I've also swapped out only the front too, pretty much for the reasons you describe, without difficulty. The only issue with doing it this way round is checking the rear isn't too squared ime.
Author:  thorkill the tall [ 25 Mar 2010 00:02 ]
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If you contact Avon's technical department, they should be able to advise you on compatability.

The standard Dunlop front seems to work ok with an Avon rear, as do quite a few other makes with an Avon on the back, but they don't advise using an Avon on the front with the Dunlop rear.
Author:  Motorrad [ 25 Mar 2010 01:33 ]
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OK, that's confusing - and to make matters worse, I was confused between different bikes I had been looking at - so my S1W does not have an Avon, it has a Dunlop Sportmax on the rear. I have decided to experiment: I am going with a sportier tyre on front, a Shinko 006 Podium. As soon as I figure out if I am going to pull the back end of the bike apart a bit, I will decide if I go with a Shinko 009 Raven sport touring dual compound, or stay with the sportier 006. I suspect the latter.

If I hadn't recently emptied the coffers to buy two bikes, I would be tempted by the Conti Road Attacks or Michelin Pilot Roads. They may not last as long, especially if I stay with the sportier 006's, but that's fine for me right now. Not expecting to take it to the track any time in the next few thou miles.

I didn't know until recently that Shinko has all the equipment from Yokohama's mororcycle tyre division, and uses their processes.
Author:  mcrbuelligan [ 25 Mar 2010 08:55 ]
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if your going to mix the tyres up on the same bike make sure that the front is more sticky than the rear
Author:  Bartonnic [ 25 Mar 2010 10:56 ]
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:yt:
Author:  Beef [ 25 Mar 2010 12:39 ]
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Im not saying it's right...........
But I've often had mis-matched tyres on my S1 and never had an issue 8-) (we are refering to brand and not road tyres and off road tyres are'nt we :!: lOl lOl
Author:  Motorrad [ 25 Mar 2010 13:55 ]
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Yes, a good, quick-turn-in sport tyre in front is what I'm after, and will then swap out the Dunlop rear for either the matching sport tyre, or one by the same mfgr that is a longer-lasting sport touring tyre.
Author:  thorkill the tall [ 25 Mar 2010 14:09 ]
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mcrbuelligan wrote:
if your going to mix the tyres up on the same bike make sure that the front is more sticky than the rear


Bartonnic wrote:
:yt:


Wot they sed.

I didn't know you could get Shinko tyres over there.
If they are anything like the Shinkos that usually come as standard on the Chinese bikes we get over here, I'd avoid them like the plague, as they seem to have been forged from the plastic usually associated with the cheap toys found in Christmas crackers.
They have deservedly taken over the mantle of 'instant-slip' from 1960's and 70's Bridgestones and Yokohamas.
Author:  Motorrad [ 25 Mar 2010 15:18 ]
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There are good, aggressive riders who seem to like them fine over here, but they do have a reputation for needing some extra care for scrubbing in - apparently they have a good dose of the release agent from the tyre moulds that needs to be worked off. I'll certainly let you know.

I think that, due to geography and Pacific Rim and all that, the NZ and Aussie crowd use them a fair amount, too.
Author:  Adam [ 25 Mar 2010 17:07 ]
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Motorrad wrote:
Yes, a good, quick-turn-in sport tyre in front is what I'm after, and will then swap out the Dunlop rear for either the matching sport tyre, or one by the same mfgr that is a longer-lasting sport touring tyre.



Strangely, I think the major tyre manufacturing companies may already have thought of that. Bridgestone wrote an article saying that their then 'sport' tyre the 010, had a different compound for the front and rear of the pair to even up wear rates and it was a waste of time using their touring tyre on the rear, which I think was the 020.
I'm fairly sure that mismatched tyres are fairly safe, although an insurance company may think otherwise, but for the sake of a few quid, the last thing I want to be thinking about when I go into a bend way too fast and out of my comfort zone is 'are my tyres ok?' lOl
Having said that, I've got a mismatched set of secondhand rain scrubs on the spare wheels of my track bike lOl :oooops:
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