big thanks to gunter for the program, big thanks to spondon for the lead, any how done a reset, reading set to the info 4.6 degrees 5.1 %, i had 2.9 degrees, 3.4 % before i started, would that of coursed the surgeing at 1200 /2000 rpm? thanks to all, all so a big thanks to pash for the info & spares, rick.