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 Post subject: x1 primary drive kit
PostPosted: 25 Jul 2011 15:18 
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any known issues with this bit of kit folks......save me the trouble of finding that there is if you would please, or put my paranoid mind at rest.........thanks


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 Post subject: Re: x1 primary drive kit
PostPosted: 25 Jul 2011 20:01 
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What is it you want to achieve? Have you got US gearing fitted?

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 Post subject: Re: x1 primary drive kit
PostPosted: 29 Jul 2011 12:42 
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no, standard uk gearing fitted...want to gear it down a bit.


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 Post subject: Re: x1 primary drive kit
PostPosted: 29 Jul 2011 13:49 
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been looking for a while..just the rear would probably be ok ..but saw the primary kit for sale..heard little of it other than speedo remains the same and that it was pricey.Then the comments re gearbox spares triggered my paranoia.


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 Post subject: Re: x1 primary drive kit
PostPosted: 29 Jul 2011 16:46 
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have a look at this thread :yup:
a Sportster rear pulley will do the job IF you get the right one :yup:

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=10055

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 Post subject: Re: x1 primary drive kit
PostPosted: 30 Jul 2011 17:20 
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Thats all good but is there any known issues with the primary drive kit?


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 Post subject: Re: x1 primary drive kit
PostPosted: 30 Jul 2011 17:30 
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Dunno, but why bother when you can get a better solution by swapping sprockets? I wouldn't pull the primary cover and remove the primary drive if I could achieve the same goal a different way...

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 Post subject: Re: x1 primary drive kit
PostPosted: 30 Jul 2011 17:51 
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Seem to remember some thing in the sales blurb from trojan about weight saving and flywheel effect , would love to see the advert again but i cant find it.I cant seem to find a 61t pulley for less than 100 quid when its been posted from us..i am too tight.


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 Post subject: Re: x1 primary drive kit
PostPosted: 30 Jul 2011 17:57 
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Lowering the primary ratio will put more strain on the gearbox compared to lowering the gearing using the pulleys though and is the major concern with doing it that way ...also it involves stripping internals rather than just changing pulleys so means you have to factor in the extra labour involved including orimary gasket and gearbox oil change + possibly new primary chain adjuster etc if you find it's getting worn when you get inside the engine. Ultimately your bike /your choice but general opinion is pulleys is the best way. ;)

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 Post subject: Re: x1 primary drive kit
PostPosted: 30 Jul 2011 18:47 
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dont really understand how there is more strain on the gearbox..can you explain please


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 Post subject: Re: x1 primary drive kit
PostPosted: 30 Jul 2011 19:25 
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dread wrote:
dont really understand how there is more strain on the gearbox..can you explain please


crankshaft...>gearbox...>rear wheel

if you lower the primary gearing between the crankshaft..>gearbox input
you are stressing the gearbox

if you lower the gearing after the gearbox you aren't

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 Post subject: Re: x1 primary drive kit
PostPosted: 31 Jul 2011 11:10 
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I still dont really understand how there can be more torque if the engine output remains the same...but i am aware that in my own expierience of changing primary drive ratio is that gearing it higher puts greater strain on the clutch..never really worked out how...but using that example it seems to me that lowering it would give the clutch and then i would think the gearbox an easier time......what am i missing?...


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 Post subject: Re: x1 primary drive kit
PostPosted: 31 Jul 2011 12:36 
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Quote:
......what am i missing?...


......very basic engineering knowledge ? :)

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 Post subject: Re: x1 primary drive kit
PostPosted: 31 Jul 2011 14:08 
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maybe so...sometimes i'm just a human with normal human traits like imperfection..so come on maz fill me in..is there an issue with the primary kit and if so can you explain it to me please so that someone like me can follow it


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 Post subject: Re: x1 primary drive kit
PostPosted: 31 Jul 2011 17:11 
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Re-read this thread mate, it's all been said already :?

Dont do it IMO.

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