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Author: | pash [ 12 Feb 2012 12:02 ] |
Post subject: | ECMSpy for Palm with Bluetooth - setting up the module |
Some months ago, Gunter sent me a BlueSmirf Bluetooth module to assist with Ulytune... Being the lazy scrote I am, Ulytune has kinda taken a backseat in favour of Son of Grenade and the 2002 Parts Bin Special X1. Since I had been sitting on Gunter's Bluetooth module for some months, I thought I ought to return it, but not before making my own. Instructions exist, I think I even translated them, but you never know how good they are until you try to validate them... I bought a BlueSmirf module back in 2010, so all I needed to do was make an interface board. My interface board differs a little from Gunter's. I use a TS78L05CS with no additional filtering (cos the datasheet says you don't need it). I built the board and connected it all up and I got the red light flashing on the module, so success. I got my Palm and went to connect, it connected fine but I couldn't get anything out of the EEPROM. Disaster I thought, so I went back to the instructions and read them again and saw that I had neglected to set up the flow control (a blob of solder on two pads on the PCB) and I had also neglected to set up the baud rate between Bluetooth module and ECM. The instructions are a bit scant on setting up communication between the Bluetooth module and, in my case, a laptop, referencing the use of Hyperterm... So, I looked to see what COM port I was connected to with the Bluetooth module: Attachment: Bluetooth a.jpg [ 28.13 KiB | Viewed 4126 times ] Here was my first confusion, surely it was only connected to one COM port ![]() I opened Hyperterm (I am using Windows XP) and connected to the first COM port. Typed some stuff, but nothing. Did a search and found some guy with a 'How To', but I was French Connection UKed if I could make my PC do what he was showing - maybe he was on Windows 7 or Vista or something posh like that. Back to the ECMSpy site and I found a reference to LynxTerm, so I downloaded it and fired it up... Select my COM port (the first one): Attachment: Connected power to Bluetooth dongle, with the red light flashing quickly, pressed connect on LynxTerm. The green LED on the module lit up and the red one flashed even more furiously (like When Harry Met Sally). I then, as instructed by the ECMSpy site, typed '$$$'. Before I could press return, the Bluetooth module responded by putting a question mark at the end (I didn't have a clue what was going on, but it was OK as you will see): Attachment: This told the Bluetooth module to 'listen up' and await further instructions. Typing 'd' then [return] pulled up the configuration: Attachment: Baudrt = 115K was not what we wanted. The baud rate should be 9600 (not 115000). So, with the command 'su,96' followed by [return] this set the speed to 9600: Attachment: And, just to check it had done its job properly, 'd' followed by [return] shows its config: Attachment: All good, so reboot the device with 'r,1' followed by [return]: Attachment: Then, as if by magic, the Palm can read the ECM over Bluetooth... [I'll put some pictures of the Palm screens if I can get everything to work on the Palm emulator on the PC] Next job is to get a Bluetooth module made up for the the up and coming ECMSpy hero, WillyBuell. ![]() |
Author: | gunter [ 12 Feb 2012 14:13 ] |
Post subject: | Re: ECMSpy for Palm with Bluetooth - setting up the module |
What a coincidence. I started writing a user's guide on Friday, and I made screenshots of most screens. The images are available online already: http://ecmspy.com/ug_palmos/images/about.jpg http://ecmspy.com/ug_palmos/images/acti ... failed.jpg http://ecmspy.com/ug_palmos/images/active_tests.jpg http://ecmspy.com/ug_palmos/images/acti ... unning.jpg http://ecmspy.com/ug_palmos/images/bluetooth_select.jpg http://ecmspy.com/ug_palmos/images/datachannels_bar.jpg http://ecmspy.com/ug_palmos/images/datachannels_num.jpg http://ecmspy.com/ug_palmos/images/datalog_done.jpg http://ecmspy.com/ug_palmos/images/datalog.jpg http://ecmspy.com/ug_palmos/images/datalog_running.jpg http://ecmspy.com/ug_palmos/images/dataview.jpg http://ecmspy.com/ug_palmos/images/eeprom_delete.jpg http://ecmspy.com/ug_palmos/images/eepr ... lename.jpg http://ecmspy.com/ug_palmos/images/eeprom_export.jpg http://ecmspy.com/ug_palmos/images/eeprom_fetch.jpg http://ecmspy.com/ug_palmos/images/eepr ... select.jpg http://ecmspy.com/ug_palmos/images/eeprom_info.jpg http://ecmspy.com/ug_palmos/images/eeprom.jpg http://ecmspy.com/ug_palmos/images/eepr ... remark.jpg http://ecmspy.com/ug_palmos/images/eeprom_records.jpg http://ecmspy.com/ug_palmos/images/eeprom_remark.jpg http://ecmspy.com/ug_palmos/images/installation.jpg http://ecmspy.com/ug_palmos/images/main_connected.jpg http://ecmspy.com/ug_palmos/images/main.jpg http://ecmspy.com/ug_palmos/images/troublecodes.jpg |
Author: | pash [ 12 Feb 2012 14:48 ] |
Post subject: | Re: ECMSpy for Palm with Bluetooth - setting up the module |
Cool, feel free to use my pics (if you want to describe setup). |
Author: | WILLYBUELL [ 12 Feb 2012 15:42 ] |
Post subject: | Re: ECMSpy for Palm with Bluetooth - setting up the module |
Next job is to get a Bluetooth module made up for the the up and coming ECMSpy hero, WillyBuell. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Author: | pash [ 12 Feb 2012 20:47 ] |
Post subject: | Re: ECMSpy for Palm with Bluetooth - setting up the module |
I used a bit of old USB cable through a gland to clamp the cable: ![]() Then put some heatshrink on, which pulled the gland tight to give some strain relief (and I am not talking about crimping off a biggie here): ![]() Not sure how much the heatshrink affects the old radio waves, soon find out though... |
Author: | gunter [ 12 Feb 2012 21:01 ] |
Post subject: | Re: ECMSpy for Palm with Bluetooth - setting up the module |
Not too much apparently, I could easily upload new EEPROM data to my mate's bike while waiting behind him at the traffic lights ... ![]() Very contrary the heatshrink led to a much worse result when I installed some USB Bluetooth dongles (with the original plastic cover removed) inside my eeePC netbook and heatshrinked them for better insulation. The range decreased to about a tenth. No idea why, though. Once the cover had been removed, everything worked fine again. |
Author: | battyone [ 13 Feb 2012 11:12 ] |
Post subject: | Re: ECMSpy for Palm with Bluetooth - setting up the module |
Apart from the obvious convenience of no cable draped over the bike and rider,is bluetooth any better than a cable? The EFI analytics bt dongle for megasquirt has an aerial. Suppose it's about time I got a pda...notebook in backpack is fine but it's tricky getting on and off the bike without pulling the cable out ![]() |
Author: | pash [ 13 Feb 2012 22:09 ] |
Post subject: | Re: ECMSpy for Palm with Bluetooth - setting up the module |
GarrCano wrote: P.D.2 I used a diode between the pin 4 on the Buell an the the inlet of the 78L05. Why did you use a diode? Is there a Cafe del Mar in Altea still? |
Author: | chris(madrid) [ 14 Feb 2012 07:43 ] |
Post subject: | Re: ECMSpy for Palm with Bluetooth - setting up the module |
Does this work on ANY PALM? If so I have a Palm Tungsten-T that somebody can have. Not sure if the battery is any use though - may need to be run off a power supply. |
Author: | gunter [ 14 Feb 2012 08:04 ] |
Post subject: | Re: ECMSpy for Palm with Bluetooth - setting up the module |
The Tungsten T is bluetooth-enabled, but way too slow for serious logging. Maybe good for EEPROM transfer and having a glance at the runtime data or trouble codes. Tungsten T5 and T|X devices have been tested and did well and I would recommend getting one of those. Maybe all models with a XScale CPU inside might be fast enough. |
Author: | pash [ 14 Feb 2012 08:50 ] |
Post subject: | Re: ECMSpy for Palm with Bluetooth - setting up the module |
My weapon of choice is the E2 ![]() |
Author: | GarrCano [ 14 Feb 2012 18:03 ] |
Post subject: | Re: ECMSpy for Palm with Bluetooth - setting up the module |
pash wrote: GarrCano wrote: P.D.2 I used a diode between the pin 4 on the Buell an the the inlet of the 78L05. Why did you use a diode? For reverse protection and it reduces 0.7 volts (less heat disipation on the 78L05) Is there a Cafe del Mar in Altea still? Yes, I think so (I don't use to go to Altea) |
Author: | gunter [ 28 Feb 2012 21:34 ] |
Post subject: | Re: ECMSpy for Palm with Bluetooth - setting up the module |
I updated the instructions how to build the Bluetooth modem and also added a user's guide for the PDA version of EcmSpy. If you find errors in there, you might a) keep them or b) drop me a mail with corrections ![]() |
Author: | pash [ 29 Feb 2012 18:46 ] |
Post subject: | Re: ECMSpy for Palm with Bluetooth - setting up the module |
User guide here: http://www.ecmspy.com/ug_palmos/userguide_pda.shtml |
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