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Author:  restone [ 19 Apr 2012 21:38 ]
Post subject:  Indcators going mental
Have had indicator issues on and off for a while now. The rear right has melted its bayonet fitting and has a loose sporadic connection so I have a replacement unit arriving tommorow. Front left shows up as blown bulb but bulb is fine and have even swaped it, rear left according to people following me goes from fast flashing to normal then slow then a flicker and off.
With bike stationary igi on, no indicators at all, no clicking from relay so stripped switch gear and cleaned all the crud out and cleaned up connectors now it only works sporadially on front right and rear left but only after riding for a while.
Do I need a new relay unit, if so which one.
Please help......indicators have always confused me even when working properly. Also hand signals at full lean while round about surfing ain't cool :shock:
Author:  Nutah [ 19 Apr 2012 21:53 ]
Post subject:  Re: Indcators going mental
:shock:
one bit at a time sounds like you may have several faults
start with the basics , check all indicators connections
including inside the lamp holders

the melted rear light , has it damaged any other cable
in the tail section
Author:  restone [ 19 Apr 2012 21:56 ]
Post subject:  Re: Indcators going mental
Nutah wrote:
:shock:
one bit at a time sounds like you may have several faults
start with the basics , check all indicators connections
including inside the lamp holders

the melted rear light , has it damaged any other cable
in the tail section

No but think I'm gonna try cutting back and stipping the wire ends before reconnecting to eliminate any broken wire ends.
Have checked cleaned and acf50'd all connectors also :?
Author:  Nutah [ 19 Apr 2012 22:09 ]
Post subject:  Re: Indcators going mental
what melted
the cable to the tail light
or the tail light assembly lamp holder
i wouldn't use ACF50 on electrical connections , try WD40
not sure if ACF50 is a good conductor TBH , as it is supposed to
coat & prevent corrosion so not sure
Author:  restone [ 19 Apr 2012 22:15 ]
Post subject:  Re: Indcators going mental
The tubular shiny bit that forms the bayonet fitting,ie the female bit that the bulb slots into and twists to lock. I glued the bulb in as a temp fix coz it was v lose but no better wagling about will make it work for a while sometimes several hundred miles before failure. Anyway have got some new ones to fit tommorow.
Author:  kevmean [ 19 Apr 2012 22:41 ]
Post subject:  Re: Indcators going mental
Nutah wrote:
what melted
the cable to the tail light
or the tail light assembly lamp holder
i wouldn't use ACF50 on electrical connections , try WD40
not sure if ACF50 is a good conductor TBH , as it is supposed to
coat & prevent corrosion so not sure


ACF50 is excellent on electrical connectors ;)
Author:  Nutah [ 20 Apr 2012 09:30 ]
Post subject:  Re: Indcators going mental
:yup: Kev

Rich , before you spend on new bits do the boring clean & check stuff first
you say the" Front left shows up as blown bulb but bulb is fine and have even swapped it"
so you have an open circuit ? or high resistance ?

remember 2 sides 2 separate circuits

one at a time check each indicator , slow and methodical
unplug it , clean & check condition of connections including the lamp & holder
look at the lamp check it's the right value W , make sure the filament isn't broken
they can flap about & make break connection (gentle flick should show it)
check you have a good feed to each indicator
(take the lamp out put a meter across the lamp holder )
same with the relay connections too , a good wiggle of connections will show
up most dodgey connections , you say you have already looked at the switch
Author:  restone [ 20 Apr 2012 11:17 ]
Post subject:  Re: Indcators going mental
Thanks Don, have done as you have suggested allready, new part is to replace melted one ;)
trouble is I don't have a metre and the sporadic functioning of the relay unit makes things very hard to pin down. Like I say I think vibration may have caused fatigue in the ends of the wires (both ends) and will cut em back a wee bit and reconnect to eliminate lose connections as best I can......if only it would stop feckin raining long enough :roll: :headbang: Bike is outside on the drive under its cover and involves a two man job to get around the mountain ledge/ patio to my workshop.
Author:  Maz [ 20 Apr 2012 12:26 ]
Post subject:  Re: Indcators going mental
Unplug the relay and bridge the orange/white and purple/white wires, this will give you a solid feed to the lamps for testing purposes.
Author:  restone [ 21 Apr 2012 21:25 ]
Post subject:  Re: Indcators going mental
Sorted them. :dance: Front left had brocken wire, back right was melted and had bust wire, flasher unit under fairing had bust wire and bad earth.
This will take all the fun out of snowdonia meet coz folks are gonna know which way I'm going. lOl
Author:  Nutah [ 21 Apr 2012 21:31 ]
Post subject:  Re: Indcators going mental
nice one :sun:
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