Everything looks good inside the primary. In fact it looks brand new, I guess Maz is the only person who has been in here before
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| Author: | Bonzo [ 15 Apr 2018 11:33 ] |
| Post subject: | Starter making graunching sound |
Especially when hot. The last time I started it I could also smell electrical smoke from the starter area. I'm guessing it's the starter clutch mechanism?? If so, what parts am I likely to need to fix it (98 S1w) Could it be anything else?? |
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| Author: | Bonzo [ 22 Apr 2018 05:56 ] | ||
| Post subject: | Re: Starter making graunching sound | ||
Everything looks good inside the primary. In fact it looks brand new, I guess Maz is the only person who has been in here before
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| Author: | gusm2 [ 22 Apr 2018 06:52 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Starter making graunching sound |
I've had to clean the contacts in my solenoid in the past, might be prudent to have a look now you're that far into it 
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| Author: | Bonzo [ 22 Apr 2018 08:27 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Starter making graunching sound |
gusm2 wrote: I've had to clean the contacts in my solenoid in the past, might be prudent to have a look now you're that far into it Will do, although pretty sure it's not the cause, it was definitely metal grinding on metal  PS - It's great working on a motor only Maz has worked on, nothing is seized, no rounded nuts, everything is correct, gasket slipped straight off 
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| Author: | Finmows [ 22 Apr 2018 10:22 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Starter making graunching sound |
But it's not going to be Maz putting it back together now...is it. 
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| Author: | Bonzo [ 22 Apr 2018 10:45 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Starter making graunching sound |
Finmows wrote: But it's not going to be Maz putting it back together now...is it. Unfortunately no, and bits he didn't touch, e.g starter motor wiring bolt, are in more of a traditional state for me, ie rusted solid and a bugger to reach Anyway, better to learn for myself in the long run.
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| Author: | Bonzo [ 22 Apr 2018 12:12 ] | ||
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OK, now I'm stumped. Starter is in bits. It's very dirty inside, but I can't see anything obviously wrong 
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| Author: | Bonzo [ 22 Apr 2018 12:32 ] | ||
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This is either it, or I'm clutching straws. Is this bearing housing in the end cover supposed to have a groove in it 
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| Author: | Maz [ 22 Apr 2018 12:58 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Starter making graunching sound |
Sprag clutch.....which you haven't got to yet
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| Author: | Bonzo [ 22 Apr 2018 13:01 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Starter making graunching sound |
Maz wrote: Sprag clutch.....which you haven't got to yet Ta, Is that No 12 in the manual (figure 5-26), ie Drive assembly/ overrunning clutch
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| Author: | Maz [ 22 Apr 2018 13:10 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Starter making graunching sound |
Yep. |
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| Author: | Bonzo [ 22 Apr 2018 13:32 ] | ||
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I was wondering how to get it out, so I held my breath and hit it with a rubber mallet. How do I tell if it's fooked? It feels a bit stiff, so I guess this is the problem I've seen them online, is there a recommended source/brand, and also, would I be just as well getting a whole new starter motor unit, they don't seem particularly expensive
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| Author: | Mickrick [ 26 Apr 2018 21:01 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Starter making graunching sound |
Starting often with a flat battery tends to bugger them up. It should spin free one way, and grip the other. It's lots of little cams with a spring around them. Clever little things 
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| Author: | Bonzo [ 27 Apr 2018 00:22 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Starter making graunching sound |
Mickrick wrote: Starting often with a flat battery tends to bugger them up. It should spin free one way, and grip the other. It's lots of little cams with a spring around them. Clever little things Yes, it's not exactly spinning free, very stiff. Being as the starter motor is looking a bit tired inside I've ordered a complete new starter motor unit, it's not a great deal more expensive than just getting a clutch unit. |
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| Author: | Mickrick [ 27 Apr 2018 08:13 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Starter making graunching sound |
[quote="Bonzo"][quote="Mickrick"]Starting often with a flat battery tends to bugger them up. It should spin free one way, and grip the other. It's lots of little cams with a spring around them. Clever little things [/quote]Yes, it's not exactly spinning free, very stiff. Being as the starter motor is looking a bit tired inside I've ordered a complete new starter motor unit, it's not a great deal more expensive than just getting a clutch unit.[/quote] So now you can take the sprag apart, and see how they work
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