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Bonzo [ 20 May 2019 12:07 ]

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Cam chain crimping, Kwak, not Buell

Hi Folks,

I've asked this on various forums to no avail, but I reckon there's more collective general bike knowledge here than the rest of the net put together. I'm going to change the cam chain on my Kwak 550 with a soft link. The link has a solid end, not hollow. What sort of tool do I need to get a good crimp on it, ie more like the nice looking one below (not my pics, just copied them off the net for reference). I've now bought two tools, both are ok for doing everything apart from crimping the new link. Surely there must be a tool that can do it nicely ??

Cheers,

Bonzo

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Author:	rik [ 20 May 2019 12:39 ]
Post subject:	Re: Cam chain crimping, Kwak, not Buell
Well it used to be called a small ball-pein hammer... I've done plenty of car cam chains in this way (Mercs were favourite for chains) and AFAIK they all survived the warranty period... But that was back in the day. I'd be interested to see these fancy tools you mention....

Author:	Bonzo [ 20 May 2019 12:57 ]
Post subject:	Re: Cam chain crimping, Kwak, not Buell
rik wrote: Well it used to be called a small ball-pein hammer... Hmm, maybe I just need one of them then rik wrote: I'd be interested to see these fancy tools you mention.... Closest I've found so far is this one. The square block pictured apparently does it, but I suspect it's sized for drive chains, and I don't really want to spend that amount of dosh if it ain't going to do it. :- https://www.mxstore.com.au/p/Motion-Pro-PBR-Chain-Tool/08-080470?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI4MzNnIaq4gIVggsrCh30ag2_EAQYAiABEgKeyfD_BwE Oh, and you can get a Mercedes crimper, but again I don't know the size, and it's even more expensive https://www.pelicanparts.com/More_Info/TOLM0050SIR.htm?pn=TOL-M-0050-SIR

Author:	Bonzo [ 20 May 2019 13:09 ]
Post subject:	Re: Cam chain crimping, Kwak, not Buell
I see that last link is actually a BMW one, also seen Merc and SAAB ones but I suspect the chains are bigger than bike chains?

Author:	Jazzbutcher [ 20 May 2019 13:37 ]
Post subject:	Re: Cam chain crimping, Kwak, not Buell
Bonzo wrote: Hi Folks, I've asked this on various forums to no avail, but I reckon there's more collective general bike knowledge here than the rest of the net put together. I'm going to change the cam chain on my Kwak 550 with a soft link. The link has a solid end, not hollow. What sort of tool do I need to get a good crimp on it, ie more like the nice looking one below (not my pics, just copied them off the net for reference). I've now bought two tools, both are ok for doing everything apart from crimping the new link. Surely there must be a tool that can do it nicely ?? Cheers, Bonzo Hi Bonzo, may seem silly suggesting this but is there not a crimping end in the chain tool box, you know with the other hardend ends? it's just got a slot in it & you can use the tool to press with as usual.

Author:	Bonzo [ 20 May 2019 13:54 ]
Post subject:	Re: Cam chain crimping, Kwak, not Buell
Jazzbutcher wrote: Hi Bonzo, may seem silly suggesting this but is there not a crimping end in the chain tool box, you know with the other hardend ends? it's just got a slot in it & you can use the tool to press with as usual. There is one of them, but it's drive chain sized. Looking for a diddy version. I spose I could make one, but am assuming they must exist already.

Author:	Adam [ 20 May 2019 14:28 ]
Post subject:	Re: Cam chain crimping, Kwak, not Buell
'Soft links' seem to be a thing of the past nowadays. For hard links, I've got a Whale brand tool, which was horribly expensive and still requires beating with a hammer. To soak up the energy from hammer blows, only 3-4 needed, I've got a big heavy block of lead that I get someone to hold on the other side of the chain. I've used it on cam, primary and final drive chains (all simplex)

Author:	rik [ 20 May 2019 16:08 ]
Post subject:	Re: Cam chain crimping, Kwak, not Buell
Bonzo wrote: I see that last link is actually a BMW one, also seen Merc and SAAB ones but I suspect the chains are bigger than bike chains? Nope, car cam chain links are similar in size to pedal bike chains

Author:	rik [ 20 May 2019 16:12 ]
Post subject:	Re: Cam chain crimping, Kwak, not Buell
Adam wrote: 'Soft links' seem to be a thing of the past nowadays. For hard links, I've got a Whale brand tool, which was horribly expensive and still requires beating with a hammer. To soak up the energy from hammer blows, only 3-4 needed, I've got a big heavy block of lead that I get someone to hold on the other side of the chain. I've used it on cam, primary and final drive chains (all simplex) This^^^ but I've always used the back side of a dolly If you think that's perverse, it's your filthy mind that is

Author:	rik [ 20 May 2019 16:15 ]
Post subject:	Re: Cam chain crimping, Kwak, not Buell
Bonzo wrote: rik wrote: Well it used to be called a small ball-pein hammer... Hmm, maybe I just need one of them then rik wrote: I'd be interested to see these fancy tools you mention.... Closest I've found so far is this one. The square block pictured apparently does it, but I suspect it's sized for drive chains, and I don't really want to spend that amount of dosh if it ain't going to do it. :- https://www.mxstore.com.au/p/Motion-Pro-PBR-Chain-Tool/08-080470?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI4MzNnIaq4gIVggsrCh30ag2_EAQYAiABEgKeyfD_BwE Oh, and you can get a Mercedes crimper, but again I don't know the size, and it's even more expensive https://www.pelicanparts.com/More_Info/TOLM0050SIR.htm?pn=TOL-M-0050-SIR How much?

Author:	Finmows [ 20 May 2019 18:27 ]
Post subject:	Re: Cam chain crimping, Kwak, not Buell
Bonzo wrote: rik wrote: Well it used to be called a small ball-pein hammer... Hmm, maybe I just need one of them then Best advisor on that would be Mr P Sutcliffe HMP Frankland Durham

Author:	conquistador [ 20 May 2019 20:28 ]
Post subject:	Re: Cam chain crimping, Kwak, not Buell
Finmows wrote: Bonzo wrote: rik wrote: Well it used to be called a small ball-pein hammer... Hmm, maybe I just need one of them then Best advisor on that would be Mr P Sutcliffe HMP Frankland Durham You've hit the nail on the head there........

Author:	Bonzo [ 20 May 2019 22:19 ]
Post subject:	Re: Cam chain crimping, Kwak, not Buell
Thanks, I'll just use a hammer then

Author:	barney [ 21 May 2019 07:32 ]
Post subject:	Re: Cam chain crimping, Kwak, not Buell
rik wrote: Bonzo wrote: rik wrote: Well it used to be called a small ball-pein hammer... Hmm, maybe I just need one of them then rik wrote: I'd be interested to see these fancy tools you mention.... Closest I've found so far is this one. The square block pictured apparently does it, but I suspect it's sized for drive chains, and I don't really want to spend that amount of dosh if it ain't going to do it. :- https://www.mxstore.com.au/p/Motion-Pro-PBR-Chain-Tool/08-080470?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI4MzNnIaq4gIVggsrCh30ag2_EAQYAiABEgKeyfD_BwE Oh, and you can get a Mercedes crimper, but again I don't know the size, and it's even more expensive https://www.pelicanparts.com/More_Info/TOLM0050SIR.htm?pn=TOL-M-0050-SIR How much? https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_osac ... l&_sacat=0

Author:	rik [ 21 May 2019 09:18 ]
Post subject:	Re: Cam chain crimping, Kwak, not Buell
barney wrote: rik wrote: Bonzo wrote: rik wrote: Well it used to be called a small ball-pein hammer... Hmm, maybe I just need one of them then rik wrote: I'd be interested to see these fancy tools you mention.... Closest I've found so far is this one. The square block pictured apparently does it, but I suspect it's sized for drive chains, and I don't really want to spend that amount of dosh if it ain't going to do it. :- https://www.mxstore.com.au/p/Motion-Pro-PBR-Chain-Tool/08-080470?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI4MzNnIaq4gIVggsrCh30ag2_EAQYAiABEgKeyfD_BwE Oh, and you can get a Mercedes crimper, but again I don't know the size, and it's even more expensive https://www.pelicanparts.com/More_Info/TOLM0050SIR.htm?pn=TOL-M-0050-SIR How much? https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_osac ... l&_sacat=0 That's a bit more like it!

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