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 Post subject: 1125R Clocks misting up
PostPosted: 19 Aug 2010 20:45 
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Got my bike end of May 09 model, with about a 1100 miles on it now, been caught in a couple of showers recently on 20 mile journey home, garaged at girlfriends place.

Went out on Tuesday morning to head off for work and after heading off, the clocks started misting up, from bottom right outwards at a bit of an angle --> / across the face.

Covered gear indicator and ODO, question really is, is the common and what can/should I do? Bit of pain and I can't imagine moisture in the unit is going to do it any favours.

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PostPosted: 19 Aug 2010 21:12 
its natural they all do it - my left indicator comes on after i wash mine - you could drill a small hole at the lowest point but thats upto you


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PostPosted: 19 Aug 2010 21:51 
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mcrbuelligan wrote:
its natural they all do it - my left indicator comes on after i wash mine - you could drill a small hole at the lowest point but thats upto you

My left hand indicator comes on when I wash the bike too... was hoping a new i/c wold solve the problem. Oh, and got the misting too "they all do that sir" ;)


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PostPosted: 19 Aug 2010 22:02 
ive sorted the indicator problem after awash by putting a plastic bag over the clocks and switch gear while I wash :yup:


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PostPosted: 21 Aug 2010 18:19 
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Williek wrote:

Covered gear indicator and ODO, question really is, is the common and what can/should I do? Bit of pain and I can't imagine moisture in the unit is going to do it any favours.

Cheers

Willie

You could maybe put some silica gel packs inside?
We use them on underwater cameras and they come in very small sizes,dont know if your able to get them inside the unit though.
http://www.thepackagingstore.co.uk/prod ... 4wodSAUFvw

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PostPosted: 21 Aug 2010 18:29 
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Ask a BT bloke when he's near his van, he'll probably give you a sackful of gel packs. Apparently they use them in phone line junction boxes. My gun cabinet is stuffed with then since I live in a damp cottage :yup:

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PostPosted: 21 Aug 2010 21:00 
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Had the misting on my cr1125 over the winter, although stored in a very dry garage, I have installed a low voltage heater to see if I can keep the moisture down. Was informed by HD dealer that it is common and not cureable by them.

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PostPosted: 21 Aug 2010 23:14 
Williek wrote:
Got my bike end of May 09 model, with about a 1100 miles on it now, been caught in a couple of showers recently on 20 mile journey home, garaged at girlfriends place.

Went out on Tuesday morning to head off for work and after heading off, the clocks started misting up, from bottom right outwards at a bit of an angle --> / across the face.

Covered gear indicator and ODO, question really is, is the common and what can/should I do? Bit of pain and I can't imagine moisture in the unit is going to do it any favours.

Cheers

Willie


Its a bit of a tricky one this because it can be a number of things.

If wene the unit was sealed the air inside had a high moisture level this moisture will continue to condense and evaporate depending on temp. You will get the same result if the unit is letting in air as well which is what you get if you do not re-fit a headlamp boot correctly. In any event this condensation can do damage in the long run and I would suggest trying to fix it. IMO its a build fault and HD should change the unit. If they will not, try this.

Take the unit off the bike and see how its put together IE Check any seals, etc. Then place the unit in a hot dry room for 24hrs and then put Silicon sealer on any part that is not visable once the unit is back on the bike.

Silica Gel packs are used by size, for air volume, if used in a sealed space IE Absorbtion rate of the pack to the air volume in said space. If the space is not sealed the Gel pack will continue to absorb moisture until it saturates, the pack will then burst and the now wet Gel can corrode Copper, Alu and most anything metal. I have seen this many times in my work with control systems and it kills kit big time.

Indicators. I have found, on many of my bikes, that the wires going into the back end of the indicator is not sealed and the moisture rots the unit from within. A correct lens seal and some sealer in the wiring tube sorts the problem 100%.


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PostPosted: 22 Aug 2010 08:57 
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WD40? Internal windscreen wiper? An internal heater?

Seriously though, one member of this forum had his IC replaced under warranty and (AFAIK) has not had a problem since.

The reason you get condensation is cos the inner face of the "glass" is coldest internal part of the IC when the PCB and screens start to heat up. Ideally the IC would be made and sealed in a dry (very low humidity) environment. The fact that it isn't sealed means that it will eventually fill with atmospheric humid air and on cold humid days it will fog up, until the "glass" temperature gets warmer.

I agree with TFD on Silica Gel, it acts like a posh sponge but when it has absorbed it's fill of water, it needs to be retired. After all, where is the water going to go?

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PostPosted: 22 Aug 2010 09:39 
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My IC was replaced with an '09 cluster under Warranty after arguing the toss with with BUK. I was told that they only replace misting clocks on Har*eys because they have glass covers, unlike the 1125 which is plastic, because glass was 'a colder material' than plastic :roll: . I had to point out that if their head of tech had discovered this unusual property in the glass compound that HD use then he'd be in for a Nobel prize for physics. Eventually the Dealer was given then go ahead to carry out the replacement lOl
Not had any problems since 8-)

When Silica gel gets saturated, sticking the sack in the oven to dry it out works a treat - don't need to do this though since the sackful of sachets the BT bloke gave was enough to last a lifetime in the cabinet lOl

If you photograph the console when it's misted up, and you can't see the speedo, then the bike you've been sold doesn't conform to UK Construction and Use regs ;)

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PostPosted: 22 Aug 2010 19:59 
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I had my IC changed also, still the same, no difference, nada. Perhaps Mr Duchman is right.


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PostPosted: 23 Aug 2010 11:15 
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:D after much harrassing my dealer eventually ordered and replaced mine under warrenty no problems to date :yup: lou


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PostPosted: 24 Aug 2010 12:04 
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So far despite being ridden in all weather conditions I've not had this issue with mine in 6000 miles.....then again the clutch doesn't weep either .............or the water pump ;) ..........only issue mine had was the alternator one.

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PostPosted: 24 Aug 2010 14:39 
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It's only a matter of time mate. ;)
As for the IC mines mists up as well and you can't see the gear indicator.

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PostPosted: 24 Aug 2010 16:10 
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norrie wrote:
It's only a matter of time mate. ;)
As for the IC mines mists up as well and you can't see the gear indicator.


:yt:

although some will tell you that a gear indicator is not needed, you just have to be in the right gear for the appropriate speed and conditions. i keep mine on coolant temp/ battery voltage.

i have thought it would be a good upgrade to have clutch fluid low level warning thingummy.

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