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 Post subject: Re: The Grenade
PostPosted: 26 Aug 2010 22:03 
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Am I confused? When you are talking about "the slide" on a CV, are you referring to the needle jet?

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 Post subject: Re: The Grenade
PostPosted: 26 Aug 2010 22:21 
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The slide is the alloy sleeve around the needle.
In a CV carb it has the diaphragm attached to the top of it.
Different cutouts on the slide effect up to about 1/3 throttle openings.

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 Post subject: Re: The Grenade
PostPosted: 27 Aug 2010 06:00 
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Yeah, and the size of the holes and the spring rate and pre-load will affect how quickly the slide opens in response to the butterfly demand (throttle) and engine demand (how quickly it spools up).

The standard slide is ally, the Thunderslide one is plastic. The standard needle had no adjustment on needle position, the Thunderslide has half a dozen clip positions and washers for intermediate positions.

Based on my experience comparing the Keihin (this particular one) and the Mikuni (on my particular bike), I would say this kit is quite good...

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 Post subject: Re: The Grenade
PostPosted: 27 Aug 2010 07:23 
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I stick with EFI, seems so much easier ... :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: The Grenade
PostPosted: 27 Aug 2010 08:31 
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It is if you disconnect the O2 sensor (so I heard)..

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 Post subject: Re: The Grenade
PostPosted: 27 Aug 2010 08:57 
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pash wrote:
It is if you disconnect the O2 sensor (so I heard)..



:hehe: ;)

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 Post subject: Re: The Grenade
PostPosted: 27 Aug 2010 15:23 
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Give me a carb any day, who need electrons deciding what I can have when it can be there in my hands :yup:

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 Post subject: Re: The Grenade
PostPosted: 27 Aug 2010 16:59 
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As most will know, I've stuck with my CV carb for the last 25,000 miles. It also has the Thunderslide kit fitted.
In 7 years, I have not touched it, except to remove it completely for other work on the engine. If it ain't broke.......
I still get 87 RWHP and yet can still get 200 miles from a full (Manta Ray) tank, if I don't cane it for too long.(not very often :twisted: ).
The only problem I get is Icing up in Winter, but I add the HD additive and this problem disappears. It only happens on really cold (Freezing) days that are damp as well.
I can live with that, as the Carb is stuck out in the open, taking all the weather.

Best performance upgrade for me (I have U.S. gearing) would be a lovely AST shock. :yup:

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 Post subject: Re: The Grenade
PostPosted: 27 Aug 2010 17:38 
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 Post subject: Re: The Grenade
PostPosted: 27 Aug 2010 18:37 
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Look what my Mikuni is getting for Christmas...

http://www.mactools.com/SearchResults/t ... =mn08-0366

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PostPosted: 27 Aug 2010 18:42 
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pash wrote:
Look what my Mikuni is getting for Christmas...

http://www.mactools.com/SearchResults/t ... =mn08-0366

Thats cheap too.

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 Post subject: Re: The Grenade
PostPosted: 27 Aug 2010 18:43 
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So am I!

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 Post subject: Re: The Grenade
PostPosted: 28 Aug 2010 09:27 
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Thunderslide kit here:

viewtopic.php?p=85857#p85857

Looking at the instructions, the only difference between S1/S3/S3T, S1W and M2 Razorback / M2 Chubby are the main jets it comes with. My S1 (pre-Thunderstorm) liked a 195...

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 Post subject: Re: The Grenade
PostPosted: 28 Aug 2010 20:55 
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mojomick wrote:
As most will know, I've stuck with my CV carb for the last 25,000 miles. It also has the Thunderslide kit fitted.
In 7 years, I have not touched it, except to remove it completely for other work on the engine. If it ain't broke.......
I still get 87 RWHP and yet can still get 200 miles from a full (Manta Ray) tank, if I don't cane it for too long.(not very often :twisted: ).
The only problem I get is Icing up in Winter, but I add the HD additive and this problem disappears. It only happens on really cold (Freezing) days that are damp as well.
I can live with that, as the Carb is stuck out in the open, taking all the weather.

Best performance upgrade for me (I have U.S. gearing) would be a lovely AST shock. :yup:


Do those CV carbs have a seperate pilot system? If so uping the pilot mix via the air screw or fuel screw which ever it uses, or upping the pilot jet usually sorts carb freezing.

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 Post subject: Re: The Grenade
PostPosted: 28 Aug 2010 21:07 
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When I was using a CV carb I found the HD winter additive stopped icing all together. I've a feeling the stuff they flog is just Methanol which can be had for about 50p/lit. The Dealer stuff many times more than that.
As an experiment, I got ran a bottle of it to the carb on my Methanol JAP motor and it ran perfectly. Can any chemists etc here see any problem using Methanol mix instead of the HD stuff :?:

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